How to Build Self-Trust with Emily Sloan
About the episode:
Hey friends! I’m so excited to bring you a powerful conversation today with my friend and expert in self-trust, Emily Sloan. Emily has built an incredible career as a therapist specializing in trauma, and she’s developed a unique framework she calls the "Self-Trust Model" that’s all about helping women move beyond self-doubt and into real confidence. In this episode, we discuss what it means to trust yourself, especially when you’re making big life or business decisions. Emily shares her journey, her insights on building true self-trust, and how we can all tap into that inner compass to guide us forward. This episode is for anyone seeking clarity, confidence, and a path to make their big dreams feel truly possible. Can’t wait to hear your take!
Highlights:
Emily’s journey from therapist to creator of the self-trust model
How the self-trust model can help you combat self-doubt and follow your intuition
RuthAnn’s take on how self-trust has impacted her own business growth and decision-making
Four foundational pillars of self-trust and how to apply them in everyday life
Why trusting yourself is the key to making big decisions with confidence and clarity
About Emily and Resources
Emily has spent over 13 years as a trauma therapist, specializing in Somatic Experiencing (SE), Internal Family Systems (IFS), and integrating Psychedelics in therapy. She has run a thriving therapy practice since 2019 (full + not accepting new clients). She is the creator of the Self-Trust Model. Emily bridges her clinical experience with the Self-Trust model to bring you a one-of-a-kind group experience. She’s the author of Can People Really Change?: 13 Lessons from 13 Years as a Therapist.
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RuthAnn
Hey guys, welcome back to rebrand with Ruth Ann, I have a special treat for you. I have a guest on the show, Emily Sloan. I'm gonna read through her bio and then tell you how Emily and I have known each other, and then we'll dive into our discussion topics, all about self trust, how you can trust yourself more, especially as you're going through changes in your business and all the things. Emily began her career as a therapist in 2012 with a passion for holistic and integrative approaches. She specializes in working with trauma through the lens of somatics, parts work and psychedelic therapy. She's the creator of the self trust model and innovative framework designed to empower women who to overcome self doubt, overthinking and insecurity so they can chase their big and expansive dreams. This model is at the heart of all transformational group exercises she now leads. Emily is also the author of, Can people really change 13 lessons from 13 years as a therapist. That book title is just everything I have to say, Emily, I'm so excited to have you on welcome.
Emily Sloan
Thank you so much. Ruth, Ann, I'm so excited to be here.
RuthAnn
So Emily and I. Emily used to live here in Kansas City, and back in 2019 before the pandemic hit, I hosted a entrepreneurial dinner for women local business owners, and Emily was one of the people who came, and so we got to meet each other in person, have a dinner, and we got connected that way. And then, of course, like the world closed down, and then I never saw anyone again, and I started having kids, and then it started being like harder to plan in person things, but I love that's how we, like, met each other and got to know each other. And since then, you have moved out of the state, and just a lot has happened over the last five years, which is crazy that that was five years ago, but I would love for you to give everyone a snapshot of how you got started in therapy, the evolutions, the different eras, if you will, of yourself and your business. And, yeah, let's we'll go from there.
Emily Sloan
Yeah, gosh, yeah. There's a lot to share that I like that. You call it the eras, though, because I was just thinking about that, because my my therapy practice, when I knew you, I remember thinking at one point, I'm like, how could I never, ever not want to do this. This is, like, the dream. I want to do this forever. And then spoiler, I've actually shut that down. And then now I'm like, in this new season of like, writing and putting my workout in that way, I'm like, I can never imagine not wanting to do this. And then I'm like, Okay, so there might be something else coming. Who knows in the future, but, but, yeah, I started my therapy practice, like you said, in 2019 it was the same year that you and I had met. Early that year, I had started my practice, and was in person, like traditional therapy practices are. And then after everything happened, you know, beginning of 2020, transitioned to online, which is actually really good for me. That had been a desire I'd wanted to have anyways, and so the timing of it actually supported that transition, and moved online, and then, um, traveled around, and was nomadic for a couple years, and saw everybody virtually. And like I said, really had a dream private practice. I got to work with incredible people, and I got to travel around, and yeah, it was really wonderful. And then I was about this time last year, had the kind of that nudge inside, that kind of whisper that was like, it's actually time to transition again. And that led to March of this year, actually shutting down my therapy practice. And in March, I saw my final client under my therapy practice and have transitioned into a new season of business. So yeah, your whole theme around rebranding and pivoting like it's very, very much a part of something I'm very familiar with. We'll
RuthAnn
say that yes, and I'm so curious, you said you loved therapy, so much you loved your practice, you couldn't imagine doing anything else. How did you change? And what started that change of events? And like, well, obviously the pandemic maybe played a major role. But you know, if you loved it, did you ever think about going back after the pandemic? Or, like, how did that change?
Emily Sloan
Yeah, well, so my, I did love in person work, I think because of the lifestyle that I wanted to live. And like I was, I was very I wanted to live that nomadic life. I wanted to travel. I wanted to go, kind of see things and live in different not just see things. I wanted to live in different places. I had done a lot of travel before, but I actually wanted to live in different places. And so that virtual platform, working with people virtually, just really benefited that. And so I really went all in on that. And what I saw was it, it became a benefit. You know, there are pros and cons to working online, but there was a lot of people that actually really enjoyed that, that way of. Working. And then I did start to add in some in person experiences as well. So I started to run some group experiences where we would meet in person, and I would do some in person sessions anytime I was, like, back in Kansas City, or would meet people for, like, kind of those walk and talk sessions. So I started to kind of just have different ways of working with people that really aligned with what I wanted and also what people were asking for,
RuthAnn
and then, like, changing into becoming an author, because this is your second book. We talked before, and I think you mentioned this is your second book, is that? Right? This is
Emily Sloan
the one who the first book is actually being released next month. So October 13 is when the first book comes out. So that's the book that's really about, kind of my lessons from therapy. I'm in the process of finishing up writing the second book, which is all about the self trust model. So the self trust model is really where my work has led. And so that one will hopefully be published sometime next year. I'm really excited about that one, because that's like, really all of the work that I've done individually and in group work distilled down into, yeah, into one, one accessible book that people can actually like read and not have to go through all the programs that
RuthAnn
I offer. So I love that so much.So I am so curious, as we are talking about self trust and whether I want to know, how do you know you're making the right decision? Like, do you and this is for you personally, maybe. And then also, like, how do you do this for your clients? Like, do you get counsel from mentors? Do you have a coach? Do you journal? Like, what is the process like, how do you know you're making the right decision?
Emily Sloan
Yeah, yeah. And I appreciate that question being more of like an individual question. It's like, because it's going to look different for everybody. But the way that I define self trust, so that's really like the work that I'm helping people to cultivate is being able to trust themselves, so that they are able to discern that question you just asked of how do you know? And so it's really building up the muscles of self trust so that you can discern is this decision right for me or not? But self trust really is the state of deep knowing that you can rely on your own internal compass to handle whatever's thrown at you in life. And so it's not contingent on the external world or things being treated a certain way. It's really it's coming from within that you can trust and rely on what that internal compass is telling you. And so the way that I work with people, there's four kind of avenues that I work with people around building and cultivating that self trust. And maybe I'll just kind of go into that, and that can help lead us into that piece that you were just asking,
RuthAnn
what else is the self trust model? Okay, great, yes,
Emily Sloan
yes, yeah. So it's designed like a compass. And so it's not a force, you know, solution. It's actually more of a way to explore all the different directions at different times. And so North is radical honesty. So it's all about being really honest with yourself. And you know this idea that, like, you don't trust people that lie to you, and so you if you want to trust yourself, you can't be lying to yourself all the time. East is keeping promises, so really following through on the commitments that you set to yourself. South is regulation. So this is all about nervous system regulation, because it's really difficult to trust your intuition when your nervous system is dysregulated, and then West is the final direction, which is knowing yourself. So that's all about really getting curious about who you are, knowing who you are, so that you can build up that trust factor. Because we don't trust strangers inherently, you know. So you have to stop being a stranger to yourself if you want to trust yourself. So that's really the framework and building that connection to yourself so that you can trust yourself. And again, that discernment of like, how do I know which decision is right? For me, is building up all of those practices and building up that strength in yourself to be able to know in that moment. But it might look different for everybody. For me, it's, it's a it's a knowing, like I just kind of it feels literally like a download, which is kind of hard to explain to people. But there's also a very like a visceral body reaction that I have, like my body very much, has a way of communicating to me, like, this, is it or this isn't it? So
RuthAnn
yes, it's like that gut reaction, yes. And I do think we all know what that feels like. For the most part, it's like, it's something really hard to explain, but it's like, you just kind of know. And so yeah, it's, I love that you help people, and I love what you said about the the compass model and like that. First. One was like, radical honesty. I think that is huge. Because when you say that, it's like, Oh, okay. Like, you know, it's one thing to say, like, be honest with yourself. Is like, radically honest. Like, what do you think about this? And it's like, you really do have a lot of strong opinions about things if you let yourself be really honest,
Emily Sloan
yeah. And it's even like the little white lies that we tell ourselves, you know, and so it's actually like getting to the deep, deep layer of, like, what's really true for me, and I think especially when, like, you know, with your work, of working with people that are building businesses, it's getting really honest about the kind of business that you want to run and the kind of work that you want to do, instead of following the path of like, this is what I should do, or this is how I could make money, or this is what somebody else is doing, but really tuning in and being honest with yourself about what you
RuthAnn
want. And from my experience, I have honestly, really struggled with self doubt in the past. And this year, I have gone through a big like, transformation, like internally, which is externally, proven to be like, more success in my business, more clients, that kind of thing. And it's funny, because I didn't realize it was self trust. And I recently had a conversation on a different podcast, and she was asking me about this, and we pinpointed that it was self trust. I was like, Wow. I didn't think that's what it was, but it actually was because in the past, and this could be going, this could be like me, like sometimes you're just going through the day to day of business, and then you are trusting yourself more, and then other times, this could be going through a pivot or a change or a rebrand, which that we will get to that in a little bit. But for me, when I was doubting myself a lot, this manifested in downloading every single freebie I could get my hands on, like being on every single social media platform, because I didn't want to miss out on anything being on Instagram, even though I really didn't like it. And like hiring a coach, which I do think hiring a coach is fantastic, but I think for me, I hired her for a lot of reasons, and one of them was like, give me the answers. Yes, because I was like, just someone tell me what to do. It's so much easier than me figuring it my own, because it's a lot of like work you have to go through. It's a lot of like emotions you go through, of like, you know, what do you want, and that kind of thing. So I feel like, for me, it was definitely just playing out in a lot of different ways. So if anyone listening has felt this way before, like you are doing all the things you're scared to, like, you know, cut off like a social media platform that you really don't enjoy. Like, know that when you make these difficult, I would say, decisions. It gets easier to make them as you go. And when you start trusting yourself, you it like compounds. And then you like, start to trust yourself more and more. And then you really feel a lot of confidence, I think, and you feel like I can figure this out. Which is where I feel like I'm at now, like there's always work to do in this area, but I do feel like I can handle like whatever comes my way. I can figure this out. I'm exploring the agency model in my business right now, and so it's and I just am trusting myself that I can figure it out. And so I think there's a lot of different ways that it manifests without knowing it's self trust. Yes,
Emily Sloan
absolutely, yeah. And I think so much of what you said resonates. And I think that's part of this, this model, like, once you see it, and a lot of people, once they like, start to understand that, they're like, Well, yeah, duh, of course, this makes sense. Like, in some ways, it's so simple, but it's just putting the language to it, because really, that's like, where this model came from. So yeah, I was a therapist for over 13 years, and worked with a ton of people and coming for different things, you know. And so they often, like, it sounded different what they were coming for. They may have had different goals that they put down, of like, what was bringing them in. But what I saw is the more that we dug underneath that, at the core of it was they were lacking a connection to themselves, and they were lacking that trust in themselves. And so yeah, a lot of times they were coming to therapy and like, tell me the answer. Tell me what to do. I want somebody else to make this decision for me, which, again, can be really tempting. When that self trust is lacking. It's really tempting to turn it over to someone else, like somebody else make that decision. Because ultimately, like, if you're turning your power over to somebody else to tell you what to do or to make the decision for you, there's a this, like, perception, like, well, that I don't have to take, I don't have to take responsibility if it doesn't go right, you know, because it wasn't my decision.
RuthAnn
That's so true. That's a very good way to put it. And I think it's just so interesting, how many times we do want that? Like, yeah, you're telling me what to do, and then I am pretty much on board, like, 60% so that's, you know, definitely probably the right thing. But it's like, sometimes you just need to sit back and reflect. Act and be like, what do I really want? Like, what do I really think is the best way to go? And do you have any examples of when you when a lot of people were maybe telling you one thing and you really felt like you should go in another direction, and how you navigated through that?
Emily Sloan
Yeah, yeah. And I think maybe specifically because your like, your focus is so much in, like, the business space, I'll give you one from there. So when I So, I did agency work for about eight years. And so what that means in the therapy world is I worked at community mental health centers, I worked inpatient, I worked at like, a rape crisis center. So I worked in a lot of different agencies, and then I made the decision to go out on my own and start a private practice. But in that process, the tempting idea was actually to join a group practice. And so there were people that were like, there was an opportunity to join a practice that was already established, that I didn't have to fill out, you know, all the logistical paperwork, I didn't have to learn how to be a business person, like, I didn't have any of those skill sets. I was like, Oh, this is really tempting. Somebody else could just do this for me, and I could just join, and I would already have, like, an influx of clients, and, like, I wouldn't have to do any of this setup. And it was very tempting, and there was some external pressure to go that route. And logically, it actually made a lot of sense. So it's just like, Yeah, you don't have experience doing this. Why not just join and learn from somebody who's done it. But something deep in me was just like, Nope, that's not it. That's not it. And that's the hard thing with intuition is so often, at least in my experience, it is counter to logic. And so like, your logical part is trying to tell you, like, do this, follow this path. But internally, I'm just like, No, that's not it. I know it makes logical sense, but that's not it. And so I made the decision to not go that route, and started the practice on my own and did it on my own terms, and learned a lot, probably made a lot of mistakes, but figured things out, and, yeah, built a lot of trust in myself along the way. And yeah, have not regretted that decision. There was never once, and I'm like, Oh, I wish I would have gone that group, that group therapy practice route.
RuthAnn
So that is so cool. And yeah, it's one of those decisions that, on paper, it looks like the correct decision, the right thing, the thing that makes the most sense. But I love that you just went out on your own and you started your own. That's so cool. And since I really believe that business and life go hand in hand so much of the time, like, it's hard to separate the two sometimes, because it's, you know, we're the face of our business, and we are the ones that are charging the path forward. And so I would love to hear if you have any personal examples of, like, when, like, that same situation, like, when everything looked a certain way on paper, but you were like, I don't think so. I have a lot actually comfortable sharing. You don't have to share too much.
Emily Sloan
Yeah, well, I shared a little bit about this, so I am comfortable sharing that. But my so actually, when I met you, I was married, living in Kansas City, and I was actually not too long after, after we met, that made the decision to actually end that, that marriage, that relationship, and that was a catalyst for me leaving Kansas City. And so there was very much on paper. Everything looked good, everything was right, but there was that, that yeah, that knowing inside of like, there's, there's something else here for me. And so it was a very, very hard decision. And again, that's my experience, yeah, personal life, professional life is often following that intuitive poll. There's a lot of challenges, and it's not, it's not the easy path. So sometimes people think like, Oh, if I'm following my intuition, or I'm listening to myself, that means that, like, it's easy, or that like my body feels good and it's just like, calm and feels good to like, follow your intuition. I was like, not in my experience. My experience is it actually leads you down some really challenging paths. And, you know, it leads you to a broader, more expansive life, but it doesn't mean it's an easy life.
RuthAnn
Yes, and that is such a thank you, first of all, for sharing that and for people who are making a big decision in their life. So maybe they want to start a business, maybe they are thinking about starting a family, or they're wanting to end a relationship, or they're wanting to go down a different career path and like, pivot or something. Do you recommend that people seek out counsel, or, like, get a coach to help them navigate through those decisions? Or like, what do you recommend for? And I know everyone's different and stuff, but I'm curious to know if you recommend, like someone have a coach during a difficult transition season?
Emily Sloan
Yeah, I think it depends the therapist answer, but, but it depends, because I think so much like the piece around self trust is like, once you have more connection to yourself. And that that self trust muscle is strong. It's not about saying, Oh, I have all the answers for me all the time. I never have to, like, seek external guidance. It's really, again, about that discernment piece of like, when do I go inside for the answers, versus when do I seek guidance from someone else? And how do I seek guidance. How do I vet the person I'm asking for, instead of just being, like, Google coach for business? Okay, first person, I'm gonna go with them, and I'm gonna just do what they say, versus, like, really tuning into like, what actual, what kind of guidance Am I actually wanting? What am I desiring, where, what's my stuck point? And like, how do I go about finding that, that person, potentially that guide, but then also vetting the information that they're giving you, you know? So it's not just like, oh, this person's the expert, therefore I'm going to listen to everything that they say. It's still filtering it through your own system. That was a big part of the work I did with people. It's like, hey, yes, I might be a therapist. I might be have some experience in different areas, and I might offer some ideas, but none of that means it's right for you. And so it's all about really tuning back into filtering it through your own system. So many times, people were disappointed in my answers. When they would come to therapy and be like, okay, like, tell me what to do here, and what should I do here? It's like, cool, we're actually gonna turn that question back inside and like, what happens when you take that question inside, versus expecting the answer to come from something external
RuthAnn
totally. And I recently went through this where I was thinking of investing in a very expensive situation for my business. And it was one of those things where I was like, Okay, this could, like, drain my savings. Don't really think I'm wanting that, but I do think this is, like, really gonna help me. And so I was really, like, wrestling with, like, is this the right investment, like, at this time? Because maybe this is the right investment, but maybe it's like, the wrong time, because, as you know, I have three littles at home, and I just don't have a ton of time already. So I was thinking, like, can I devote myself to this? You know, what I want to invest in? Like, could I manage this? Basically. And I asked my husband, Foad. I was like, Hey, so what do you think about the end? You know, I laid out everything why I thought this was great. And he was just like, Ruthie, and you're not going to take my advice anyway, like you're just going to do what you want. So why are you asking me? And I was I was like, Babe, listen. Like, I want your input. And because I think you have so much wisdom, and I really want to know what you think, but yes, at the end of the day, I am going to do what I want, because I feel if I feel like it's right for me, then I know I'm going to, like, take off in that direction, if you know what I mean, like, I know it's really going to be expansive for me, and, like, really help me. But if I don't feel confident, that confidence in myself, I probably won't do it. So it just kind of depends, like, Yes, I will take your advice or other people's advice, but at the end of the day, what do I think is really gonna help me, like, grow, and when you have that behind you, like, yes, rather than someone else telling you yes, you're so much more likely to have a great experience or to have an expansive experience, or something like that. I ended up not going with the package, just because I didn't want to drain my savings. I'm, like, saving up for this in the future, but it's just one of those things where I, I was like, I appreciate input, but yeah, I will make my own decisions.
Emily Sloan
I think that's really, um, it's, it's a piece here, though, that there's like a a fun layer to getting curious about that, of like, seeking guidance or asking for advice from people, is like, you can kind of know a lot of times, like, who am I going? Like, if there's like, a Yeah, like, do I do this or not? Do I join this package or not? There's probably people in your life that you knew, like, Okay, if I go and ask them, they're gonna be like, Heck, yeah, Ruth, Ann, do it, and there's gonna be other people that are like, I don't know. That seems like a really risky investment. I don't think you should do it. It's like, you almost kind of know what answer you're gonna get. So it's an indication of where you're already leaning by Like, who do I want to go to for this with this question
RuthAnn
that is so true that makes me think about relationships. Sometimes, when you're like, in a dating relationship, like, you know the friend who's gonna like, be like, Oh, go for it, you know. And then you know the friend who's be like, No. And so it's one of those types of situations. So I think, and a lot like love, when you experience love, it's like, it's not one of those things that you can like, pinpoint or know exactly, like, say exactly why, but you just feel that it's right. So yeah, that's definitely it's interesting seeking advice in multiple
Emily Sloan
areas well, and I think you mentioned it earlier too, this idea of like some people like that, most people just know, and I think that's true for a lot of people, once we've done a little bit of this work, but I don't think that's universally true. I don't think everybody just knows what that gut feeling is, because intuition, like connecting to your intuition, feels a lot like anxiety sometimes and or it feels a lot like wishful thinking, you know. So sometimes it's actually really hard to discern between, like, what is my intuition versus what is anxiety telling me not to do something? What is fear telling. Me not to do something. So I really encourage people to, like, get a lot of practice, and then it takes reps. It takes again. It's like a muscle that you're building over time. And like, you were saying, like, connecting back to like, oh, wow, I actually do trust myself. And now it's, it's kind of growing exponentially, that trust, and then this confidence comes. And that's really the way I frame confidence. Work with people. Is not a like, we're not going to laser focus on like, Oh, here's how to build confidence. Here's the three steps, and we're going to do it just like this. It's like really looking at confidence as a byproduct of more trust in yourself. So when you do this deep work to build trust gradually and slowly over time, then that that confidence just kind of naturally comes
RuthAnn
that's so good and so true. So if people are wanting to build their self trust muscle, and they're wanting to, maybe you don't, you're not going through a rebrand right now. You're not ending a relationship. You're not, like, starting a huge chapter, but you want to start with, like, little steps, baby steps. Like, what do you recommend for people?
Emily Sloan
Yeah, well, one that comes to mind, I think, is beneficial, whether you're going through a big rebrand or just kind of like coasting a little bit in life, and kind of in that season, is to explore the scripts that you've been handed in life. So I talk about life scripts a lot with people. So life scripts are these, like, kind of scripts that were handed for our performance in life. And so they tell us, like, Okay, how we should live, how we should love, how we should work, how we should just, like, do life. You know, they're really like the shoulds and the shouldn't, you know, those should voices, and they're all different, you know, based on our age, based on our culture, based on like, the area that we are, you know, born into, you know, just like all these different factors change the scripts that we were handed, but so often we just follow those scripts without even thinking about it. They're very unconscious. And so taking a moment to, like, pause and step back and really look at like, what are those scripts that I was handed? Like, what were the things that I was was told, like, this is just how you're supposed to do life. I think specifically in business. You know, you and I both have started businesses and probably had lots of people with inputs and telling you ideas of like, this is what you're supposed to do, and this is what it should look like. And really looking at like, does that actually make sense for the business that I want to run, or is that just the path that I was told I was supposed to take? So even just like, first identifying is the first step of just like, what are those scripts? Like, what are scripts? What scripts Am I maybe following on autopilot, you know, like, where are we on autopilot in life? Um, versus really tuning into like, is that? Is it actually working for me? Does that actually make sense for what I want to create in my life and in my business? Ah,
RuthAnn
so many things come up for me there, when you talk about like, shoulds and shouldn't. And I think about like, motherhood, like, you know, you motherhood should be this way. Or you should, you know, like TV time, like, oh, we really shouldn't have the TV on or something, you know, I just think of natural, everyday, normal things that, like, maybe people in your life input to you, oh, you really shouldn't do that, or you should do that. So that comes to mind. And then what was the other thing that came to mind when it's like, it should, oh, when you're making money in your business, like, oh, you should be grateful if you have this much money or something, and it's like, Yeah, that one's a big one to me. It's like, you can be grateful, but also like, strive for more. And it's not bad to have more. It's a good thing to have more. I think more heart centered women should have more money because the world would be a better place. And so I just think there's so many of those. And so I love that you brought that up. There's a lot of shoulds and shouldn't in finances, in parenthood, in business, in relationships. So I think that's a great thing to do for people, is to just start with, what are you programmed to do? And you know, how can you think about that differently? Yeah,
Emily Sloan
yeah. Because if we want to live a life on purpose, if we want to live a life with any sort of intention behind it, like we have to know what's been operating behind the scenes for our life up until this point. And so it's really like, yeah, tuning into where, where are those shoulds running the show. Like, where, where, where should setting my goals. And I think that idea around money is a big one, especially for women, and like, the messages that we have around what it means to have money, and how much should be enough, and how we should feel about money. And I know we were going to talk about this at some point, there's a freebie that I'm going to give your audience. And this is a practice that people could do around this. It really guides people through, like, reflecting on a lot of these questions and like thinking about the past six months, like, what's working, what's not working? Where are those life scripts at play? Where am I on autopilot? Where do I trust myself? Where do I not trust myself? So really taking inventory first. I think that's really important before we start setting goals and setting intentions and all of that. It's like taking time to reflect about like, where are you now, and how did you get here? And then it guides you through setting those intentions for the. Next six months and really thinking intentionally about like, what? What do you want in your life, both in business and in your personal life?
RuthAnn
Yes, and I'm so excited you have that for my audience, and everyone needs to check that out. Excuse me, everyone needs to check that out for sure. And before we wrap up, I just wanted to get a quick, you know, take on like, what do you have coming up in the next six months to a year? What are you working on? What are you excited about? And where can people find you?
Emily Sloan
my website is curiosityrising.com so that was my therapy practice, and now is the business that holds everything else that I'm putting out, not rebranding My name at this point. So, but yeah, so I, like I said, my first book is, how or can people really change? And 13 lessons from 13 years as a therapist, and that's coming out October 13. And then the next book I'm finishing up writing right now, and that's going to be this entire self trust model. So it's very much these concepts and these ideas of the four directions, but then it gives you practical tools in each direction that really kind of guides you on a journey for yourself to discover, yeah, how to live your life from that place of trusting yourself. So that's going to be coming sometime in 2025
RuthAnn
so exciting that first book sounds so cool. I can't wait to get that book, honestly, and when this airs, that should be out by now. So everyone has to go get yourself a copy of that book. And like we just mentioned, the freebie is the reflect and set booklet. So definitely we'll have the link in the show notes for everyone to go download that. And thank you for that such a gift, and just to get started in this and to like plan for the next six months. So I'm so excited. Thank you so much, Emily for this really insightful conversation and something that I think is such a cornerstone in your life, like trusting yourself like what is bigger than that? So I think that is such a huge topic, and I'm so glad we had this conversation. So thank you so much for being here today.
Emily Sloan
Thank you so much for having me. Ruthann, it was a pleasure. Bye.
